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Size: Large, Medium, Small Sun Sep 21, 08 12:34 AM | Category: Literature
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This post is the continuation of my post Happiness Outside The Cliché

 

This post has the following purposes:

 

a. To expose and contradict empirical preconceptions (social agendas) regarding homosexuality, gay marriage and gay parenting.

 

b. To get religious and other highly prejudiced persons into thinking and reconsidering their stand in the matter and to get them to stick their fucking prejudices up their asses (pray the lord you don't enjoy it)

 

c. To create an space for discussion of the subject

 

Foreseeing the mandatory stupid comments of equally stupid people and although it is not of your fucking business, I'm a heterosexual male so this is a post made by a straight person and not by a homosexual person who wants the whole world to be gay.

 

To make the post shorter, I'll omit all the references but if you are a person who likes to think and based your opinions on reason and scientific facts, I got most of the data from the American Psychological Association; here is the link to more complete information:Lesbian And Gay Parenting

 

At last, the following are WRONG ideas which people commonly believe  WITHOUT ANY EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THEM. In other words, I´m against these ideas and here are the reasons why:

 

1. Homosexuality is unnatural

 

This is a weak preconception. The fact is human being is an entity formed mainly by two dimensions: biological and social. Our social nature has leads us to transcend our biological role (for better or worst) so now we destroy nature, built our concrete homes, get dressed, drive highly contaminating machines and eat synthetic food, most of it with no real nutritional value. Does any of the above seem natural to you? So judging a sexual orientation by calling it unnatural is not rational at all because mankind stopped being natural ages ago despite its biological origin.

 

2. Gays and lesbians are mentally ill

 

Wrong!!! "The psychiatric, psychological, and social work professions do not consider homosexual orientation to be a mental disorder. Extensive research conducted over three decades showed that homosexual orientation is not a psychological maladjustment There is no reliable evidence that homosexual orientation per se impairs psychological functioning."

 

3. Gays and lesbians would be bad parents

 

Wrong Again!! "Lesbian and heterosexual women have not been found to differ markedly either in their overall mental health or in their approaches to child rearing. Similarly, lesbians' romantic and sexual relationships with other women have not been found to detract from their ability to care for their children. Research on gay fathers likewise suggests that they are likely to divide the work involved in child care relatively evenly and that they are happy with their couple relationships"   

 

4. Children with gay or lesbian parents are more likely to become homosexuals

 

This is one of the main fears of the detractors of gay marriage. Homophobic persons´ fear of a gay society if gay marriage is allowed has no evidence to support it. "The great majority of offspring of both lesbian mothers and gay fathers described themselves as heterosexual. Taken together, the data do not suggest elevated rates of homosexuality among the offspring of lesbian or gay parents". In other words, gay marriages would produce unprejudiced human beings, go figured!!

 

5. Marriage is a holy institution and it can not be stain by the corruption of homosexuality

 

When I speak of gay marriage, I refer to the legal marriage with all the rights and duties it involve, including the right to adopt or to procreate children. There can not be gray areas, either you accept them or not. So the marriage I believe should be allowed for homosexuals is the civil one, if they want to be as unhappy as most heterosexual marriages, fucking let them!! As for the common marriages rituals of the different religions, there is no discussion that no religion has the obligation to accept a gay marriage ceremony if its believes don't accept them. As you know, one can not argue with faith because it listens to no arguments, it is "blind" although I would call it "highly idiotic".

 

 

So, what is your opinion of the matter? If you are against it, which are your reasons?

 

 

 

Song: "Arcus" by Amethystium

 

 


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luthienessa Mon Sep 22, 08 01:05 AM

Hm....Of course i read it carefully, that's why i told you about gay parents..i mean i'm sooooo agree in that part of discussion..Hope it's makes you understand better...

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sittingdevil Mon Sep 22, 08 05:01 AM

well its nt our job to decide but if u asked then im nt in in favour of gay cos its aginst hte nature n our enviournment too....!


skandranon Thu Sep 25, 08 07:28 AM

It is against our nature and environment how, in what way?? Mmmmm

" Your only as old as the woman you feel "
batorichka Mon Sep 22, 08 06:30 AM

This is such a difficult topic- I must admit that I have always been concerned about the offspring of gay couples being influenced by their parents sexuality, (although this has to be debated because their own parents were probably from heterosexual relationships and it had no effect on their sexuality as they turned out gay). However, my fear that children turn out like their parents is founded on fact (up to 70% of sexually abused people go on to be abusers) racist parents produce racist children etc. I read a little of the link you posted 'children of lesbian and gay parents' and my only criticism is that it would be difficult to tell whether or not the kids had been affected because they had not even reached puberty yet...

Currently in the UK it seems quite 'fashionable' to be gay. I have even known of youngsters experimenting with homosexuality just for the sake of it, and in my opinion this is because it has become socially acceptable. I also think it is morally wrong to change somebody into something that they are not, and society is to blame. Homosexual people have been having children for years and to say something is unnatural is quite mad; if something exists by its own volition, then it is natural. One of my best friends is gay, he is an absolute angel, and if i could have found a straight guy with a heart like his, I would have married him! so it would be rather unfair to say that another man should not get the pleasure of being in a binding contract to spend the rest of his life together with him. There are also the legal implications of having a partner without a contract that could make it very sticky when they split, so why should they not have the same rights as heterosexuals? and the same marital problems too ......


wolfloner Mon Sep 22, 08 11:24 AM

In my country, we have free pass for Gay marriage, but here in Ireland there is no way to this kind of wedding. My own opinion, everybody is free to do what he want, your liberty get end where my liberty stop. I use to have plenty of friend homosexual, gays, lesbiennes etc... and i got a lot of fun. But are they normal people, I cannot said it, who plan what is normal or not, the politic, the church or people.

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mita_say Tue Sep 23, 08 10:56 PM

sa va fut pe toti


jfmn24 Wed Sep 24, 08 01:32 AM

Dear Monti_84.

Firstly point 1. Both hetrosexual and homosexual relationships are formed in most from a very natural process of chemical imbalance known as love. gay relationships differ only where the natural "urge" to pro-create cannot lead to the aventual maternal outcome of a child, of course this can apply to hetrosexual relationships also. In truth and assence nature is merely the material world we live in. imagine a termite nest.. It is simply a mound of earth. Look at our cities what are they really??? Earth. Homosexualality is as old as the oceans.

Being gay is natural.

I do however think that encouraging people to stick body parts into thier anal tract whether gay straight or whatever is a BAD BAD THING!!!

unless you r a very clean person. i Enjoy rimming my wife occasionaly.

oh and by the way everyone who is good of heart has right to be a parent. I do however strongly apose artificial means of reproduction includinG surrogacy. i also strongly apose abortion and FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT NOTHING CAN OR SHOULD REPLACE THE FEELING OF CHILD BIRTH AND RAISING A FAMILY. 1 MUM AND 1 DAD IS ENOUGH FOR ME. 1 OF EACH. THANK YOU. ANGELINA JOLIE AND BRAD PIT SHOULD BURN IN HELL ALON WITH 99.9% OF THE WORLDS COPERATE BANKS AND POLOTICIANS.

OH BY THE WAY IF YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO LIVE IN A SOCIETY WHERE GAY IS OK THEN YOU SHOULD SERIOUSLY NOT LET ISLAM INTO YOUR COUNTRY. ITS A NO GAY DAY IN MECCA OH THATS FOR SURE.


Zendex Wed Sep 24, 08 04:02 AM

b.t.w here in the Netherlands Gay marriage is arranged by law long ago... Two men or Two woman can marry here without a problem. And they can even adopt a child.


monti_84 Wed Sep 24, 08 01:04 PM

Great...I don′t know why, but Nehterlands always seems to be one step ahead of the rest of the world...great country...

"To define is to limit" Oscar Wilde
housearrest9 Wed Sep 24, 08 04:43 AM

hii i am housearrest9 i am gay and i am proud of it i think gay marriges are not an issue.

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osanda (Osei') Wed Sep 24, 08 07:27 PM

Why people always try to make big deal out of this. I’m 100% straight and it makes me sick thinking about being with another man. It’s the same with gay guys, it make them sick thinking about being with a girl. They can’t help it, it’s just their hormones.

Saying Homosexuality is unnatural is lord of bull, coz lot of things in this world is unnatural anyway. And hell ya they can get married if they want. No body have right to say anything against it. If you don’t like it look the other way. You do what ever make you feel good and they have right to do the same.

Bloody hell why you people complaining about lesbians? Lesbians are hot!

Would they be bad parents? Maybe. Actually its not bad parents....its more like child will miss father or mother. If someone saying man can be a mother, i completely disagree. It same with the dad.

I remember when I grow up I learn and experience complete different things from my mom and dad. I don’t think no man can give that kind of motherly love to child.

Anyway what the heck their is so many people who raised by single parent and they grew up fine. This situation is even better, coz this children will have couple of same parent.


gazdoc Wed Sep 24, 08 11:33 PM

Who are we to judge gays, let them be its their choice and if they are happy about it, let them be.

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